{"id":7274,"date":"2022-03-23T17:59:22","date_gmt":"2022-03-24T00:59:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/?p=7274"},"modified":"2022-04-04T19:05:43","modified_gmt":"2022-04-05T02:05:43","slug":"diy-hydronic-radiant-floor-heating-the-truckee-workshop-part-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2022\/03\/diy-hydronic-radiant-floor-heating-the-truckee-workshop-part-17\/","title":{"rendered":"DIY Hydronic Radiant Floor Heating &#8211; The Truckee Workshop Part 17"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/0178FF82-54E0-4F21-AA42-A64A566902A7_1_105_c.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/0178FF82-54E0-4F21-AA42-A64A566902A7_1_105_c.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7275\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/0178FF82-54E0-4F21-AA42-A64A566902A7_1_105_c.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/0178FF82-54E0-4F21-AA42-A64A566902A7_1_105_c-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/0178FF82-54E0-4F21-AA42-A64A566902A7_1_105_c-214x285.jpeg 214w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In my last post, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2022\/03\/15000-pounds-of-drywall-the-truckee-workshop-part-16\/\">I talked about the drywall install<\/a>. If you are new here, check out my overview posts for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/tag\/workshop-project-2021\/?order=asc\">Truckee Workshop Project<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Truckee gets really cold in the winter, and I needed some sort of heating in the garage. I decided to do hydronic radiant heating, by installing PEX tubing in the concrete slab. I contracted out a company to do this work, as I didn&#8217;t have time to learn how to layout the tubing and there was a very short window before I could get the concrete poured, which was the next day after the tubing was installed and inspected. I was only able to get a few quotes for my the heating system, as a lot of companies work on radiant heating but didn&#8217;t do new-construction installs.  I picked one company and my plan was to have them also do the boiler install, but at this point the project was way over budget and I really couldn&#8217;t afford to pay them to do it. So, I decided to learn how to do my own DIY install. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In retrospect, I wish I would have not used a propane boiler. There seems to be three options to heat the radiant heat liquid (water or glycol mixture): <strong>propane\/gas boiler, electric boiler, or an air-to-water heat pump.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Back when I first started the project, a propane boiler seemed like the only option &#8212; mainly because it was what all the heating contractors were telling me to use, and it is what our house used. Then I started researching DIY setups, and they all seem to use on-demand electric water heaters. These electric water heaters can&#8217;t put out as many BTUs as a propane boiler, but they are way easier to install. I also realized it was hard to purchase a boiler; most companies will only sell them to a licensed contractor or plumber. Luckily I had a friend who helped me out with this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I somewhat recently learned about the other option for heating: an <strong>air-to-water heat pump<\/strong>. These efficiently use electricity. Normally, an electric water heater has a Coefficient of Performance (COP) of 1, meaning every 1 kWhr of electricity that is put into it goes directly into heating the water. Heat pumps can get a COP of 2 or 3, which means every one kilowatt of electricity put in can get out 2 or 3 kilowatts of heat out.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Air-to-water heat pumps are relatively new in the US, but are more common in Japan and Europe. Some companies aren&#8217;t even importing them into the US yet, so the options are rather limited and it is a somewhat &#8220;new&#8221; technology here. Even so, if I would have known about them I probably would have put my radiant tubing output at a different location and used one. I&#8217;m also really wanting to put one into my main house.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, for the workshop for now, I am going with a propane boiler. This was difficult to buy, and also required a lot more work.  I had to get a propane tank just for my garage. I had to trench and run pipe over to the garage. I had to get fire-department approval for my tank location. I had to install a second stage regulator and all the appropriate piping over to my boiler location. I had to properly pressure test everything. I still need to install a bollard in front of the regulator. I think I also have to get a final inspection from the fire marshal to make sure everything is okay.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I started working on the install while the drywall was starting to get done. I did a FaceTime inspection with the county inspector for the drywall, and also mentioned I had the boiler installed. He noted that the height of my vent exhaust was too low for our given snow load. This meant I had to redo a bunch of the vent plumbing to another location&#8230;one that wasn&#8217;t ideal, as it had to go through the entire building and out the back wall.  Eventually I may simply rip it out all out and go with an air-to-water heat pump. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I haven&#8217;t yet done my final building inspection, but I think I did it all right. The slab is insulated really well, and seems to hold the heat incredibly well, but I have only been heating it up to the 50&#8217;s just to take the chill off while I work. I test it by touching the two heating wires together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the next post I&#8217;ll talk about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2022\/04\/drywall-finish-painting-lights-the-truckee-workshop-part-18\/\">painting and finishing the drywall<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my last post, I talked about the drywall install. 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