{"id":3429,"date":"2013-12-28T09:42:05","date_gmt":"2013-12-28T17:42:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/led-notes-led-cyr-wheel-v2\/"},"modified":"2018-11-03T13:36:25","modified_gmt":"2018-11-03T20:36:25","slug":"led-notes-led-cyr-wheel-v2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/led-notes-led-cyr-wheel-v2\/","title":{"rendered":"LED Notes \/ LED Cyr Wheel v2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>I&#8217;m investigating LEDs for another LED cyr wheel (v2). Here is my first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2013\/10\/making-the-led-cyr-wheel-roue-cyr-part-1\/\">LED Cyr wheel<\/a> and a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2013\/10\/led-cyr-wheel-roue-cyr-videos\/\">video<\/a>. I figure I&#8217;ll just make my notes on my blog for others to benefit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Goals:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Individually addressable LEDs, so I can do cool patterns<\/li>\n<li>At least as many LEDs as my first wheel, but possibly twice as many (a strip on each side), which was my original plan<\/li>\n<li>Built in battery charger and batteries (Lithium ion)<\/li>\n<li>Easy to access way of reprogramming (i.e.: USB port)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Extras:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Accelerometer for basing patterns on speed<\/li>\n<li>Live touch strips, for dynamically changing the LEDs while in the wheel<\/li>\n<li>Networked in some way so a 3rd party can control the wheel from a computer and dynamically send patterns to it.<\/li>\n<li>A way for wheels to talk to each other for synchronized spinning<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/adhesives\/\">post discusses Adhesives.<\/a> I&#8217;m waiting to get those to experiment with gluing PVC together.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><strong>LEDs<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>How many LEDs?<\/strong> My original wheel has an inner diameter of about 5&#8217;8&#8243; (I&#8217;m 5&#8217;6&#8243;) = 68&#8243;. Circumference is that times pi: 68*3.14 = ~214&#8243;, or 5.4356 meters.<\/p>\n<p>I had ordered my first set of LEDs from AdaFruit: 11 x RGB LED Weatherproof flexi-strip <strong>60 LED<\/strong> &#8211; (per 1 meter)[ID:346] = $247.50 (Yeah, seriously expensive for non-addressable LEDs, and I din&#8217;t use about 6m of the stuff &#8211; I originally planned for LED strips on each side, slightly off from center weight position). That&#8217;s <strong style=\"font-style: italic;\">$22.50 per meter,<\/strong> and for the entire wheel I have 5.4m*60LEDs=~324 LEDs at a price of about: <strong>$121<\/strong> per wheel.<\/p>\n<p>So I &#8216;ll say I need <strong>330 LEDs,<\/strong> or potentially twice that if I want them on each side (slightly off center).<\/p>\n<p>What LED strip to use? The <strong>WS2812B LED<\/strong> contains a driver built into it, and seems more durable based on this <a href=\"http:\/\/rgb-123.com\/ws2812b-vs-ws2811\/\">RGB 123 post<\/a> (it has reverse polarity protection). Pololu has a blog post <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pololu.com\/blog\/262\/new-products-addressable-rgb-led-strips-based-on-the-ws2812b\">here<\/a> and for sale <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pololu.com\/product\/2549\">here<\/a> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pololu.com\/product\/2549\">Addressable RGB 60-LED Strip, 5V, 1m (WS2812B)<\/a> &#8211; $22.45 per meter (ordering 10m+) . Adafruit also has a new LED strip which they are calling &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.adafruit.com\/products\/1138\">NeoPixel<\/a>&#8221; ($23.95 per meter, for 4-39 meters ordered &#8211; 6M would be $144) &#8211;It probably is WS2812 (not B) based on their info, and saying how careful you have to be to hook it up.<\/p>\n<p>Should I even use LED strips? Single-item ones from Adafruit: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adafruit.com\/products\/1379\">http:\/\/www.adafruit.com\/products\/1379<\/a> (WS2812 5050 RGB LED with Integrated Driver Chip &#8211; 10 Pack). I&#8217;d need 330 (LEDs desired) \/ 10 (per pack) = 33 packs of these, at $4.05 per pack: <strong>$133.65 &#8211;<\/strong>&#8211; these alone would be more expensive than buying the LED strips, AND I&#8217;d need a resistor added somewhere in there. I think me trying to manually solder 330 of these LEDs together is out of the question. I <strong>have to<\/strong> use strips.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Finding strips<\/strong>: I bought some of the WS2812 (not the B!) strips &#8212; the B strips seem to have reverse polarity protection built in..which is nice\u2026and actually not that much more expensive. I just had 10% off from Sparkfun so I ordered 6M from them <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sparkfun.com\/products\/12028\">https:\/\/www.sparkfun.com\/products\/12028<\/a> . Otherwise, I would have gotten them from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pololu.com\/product\/2550\">Pololu in 2m strips<\/a> 6 M total.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Edit: <\/strong>My friend matthew mentioned\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blinkinlabs.com\/blinkytape\/\">http:\/\/blinkinlabs.com\/blinkytape\/<\/a> &#8211; it looks cool (but expensive) and the software was something I was thinking about doing!<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><strong>How to Protect the LEDs?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>New idea: cut groove, and fill in with liquid silicon rubber to protect LEDs<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I had thought about this before but couldn&#8217;t think of a good way to cover the LEDs that wouldn&#8217;t interfere with light emission. Then I realized the LED strips already have some type of protective plastic coating, and it might be possible for me to embed them in some more!<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><strong style=\"font-size: 13px;\"><em>Options out there:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>SORTA-Clear\u00ae Translucent Silicone Rubber<\/em> &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/index.php?cPath=1115_1134\">https:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/index.php?cPath=1115_1134<\/a> &#8211; &#8230;Kind of what I want, but not clear enough.<\/p>\n<p>This looks like it is perfect, but it is *super* expensive ($200-$260) to order for me to just try it out:<\/p>\n<p><em>Clear Flex\u00ae Water Clear Urethane Rubber<\/em>&#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/Life-Casting--Uret\/c3_0_6_1117_1153\/index.html\">http:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/Life-Casting&#8211;Uret\/c3_0_6_1117_1153\/index.html<\/a><br \/>\n..I&#8217;m not sure if it will &#8220;stick&#8221; to the wheel; if it casts, and then simply falls out, it won&#8217;t hold everything together.<\/p>\n<p>Epoxy resign might be my best bet, and comes in a small quantity ($33)<br \/>\n<em>Clear Epoxy Resin<\/em>:<a href=\" http:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/Castable-Epoxy-Res\/c1295_1377\/index.html\"> http:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/Castable-Epoxy-Res\/c1295_1377\/index.html<\/a><br \/>\n&#8230;and it might bond the things together nicely. I ordered some of this (about $50 with sipping &#8211; called EpoxAcast 690 &#8211; Trial Size (10017194))<\/p>\n<p>This might be better for clarity, and seems great for allowing light to go through:<br \/>\n<em>Crystal Clear\u00ae Series &#8211; Optically Clear Liquid Plastic<\/em> &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/index.php?cPath=1156\">http:\/\/www.smooth-on.com\/index.php?cPath=1156<\/a><br \/>\n&#8230;but they don&#8217;t have prices listed for it on their website, and it is probably hard to get.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m also still considering cutting the PVC and gluing it back together; I&#8217;ll experiment more with that approach, although I dislike it. Cutting a groove will be tough for sure!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Edit: <\/strong>My friend Chris Bensen told me Crystal Clear is sold in small quantities! I found it quickly on Amazon &#8211; search for: &#8220;Castin&#8217;Craft Clear Poly Casting Resin with Catalyst 16 oz&#8221; \u00a0&#8211; $20. I&#8217;m going to experiment with that too.<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><strong>What chip\/microprocessor to control it all?<\/strong><\/div>\n<p>I previously used Arduinos for projects; they are easy to program and have lots of code and samples out there on how to use them. However, I&#8217;ve heard they are slow, and I want something with enough RAM to handle complex patterns. So, I&#8217;m going to drop Arduino and try a much faster Teensy 3.1:\u00a0\u00a0<a title=\"asylum.com\" href=\"http:\/\/\">http:\/\/www.pjrc.com\/teensy\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Edit: <\/strong>Mad suggested I look into a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.spark.io\">Spare Core Arduino clone<\/a>; it has plenty of RAM and built in wifi\u2026so I ordered one!<\/p>\n<p><strong style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Connectors<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve had a heck of a time finding good connectors. My first wheel used really crappy connectors I bought from Frys that aren&#8217;t at all meant to connect wire to wire. The main trouble I had is that the big digital supplier sites like Mouser and Digikey are hard to navigate. I finally realized what I wanted was called <strong>&#8220;wire to wire connectors&#8221;<\/strong> in the industry. Eventually I found this great site on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.molex.com\/molex\/products\/group?channel=PRODUCTS&amp;key=wire_to_wire_connectors\">Molex: Wire to Wire connectors<\/a>. I figure about 5 amps would be the max current, so I needed something that could handle that; that (should be) about the rating when all lights are powered full on (full white). I (think) 20awg wire will be fine to use to transfer power; the wire length from wheel to wheel will be short, and the wheel won&#8217;t ever be run at full white that long (full power). The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.molex.com\/molex\/products\/group?key=microfit_30153_interconnect_system&amp;channel=products\">Molex Micro-Fit connectors<\/a> seem to fit the bill really well. Now, it took me hours and hours to find them and pick the ones I want; now I realize the website on Molex is setup really nice to filter down what you want. (I also learned I wanted &#8220;bag&#8221; and not &#8220;reel&#8221;). I don&#8217;t want &#8220;ears&#8221; on them as they won&#8217;t be &#8220;surface mount&#8221; connectors (another thing I learned). Once I had the part number, I could easily find it on Mouser (which is much better than Digikey).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m investigating LEDs for another LED cyr wheel (v2). Here is my first LED Cyr wheel and a video. I figure I&#8217;ll just make my notes on my blog for others to benefit. Goals: Individually&#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2013\/12\/led-notes-led-cyr-wheel-v2\/\">[read more]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[13,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3429","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-circus-and-silk","category-general"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3429","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3429"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3429\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5413,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3429\/revisions\/5413"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3429"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3429"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3429"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}