{"id":1916,"date":"2010-12-19T23:38:29","date_gmt":"2010-12-20T06:38:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/12\/plug-bug-battery-box-design\/"},"modified":"2010-12-19T23:38:29","modified_gmt":"2010-12-20T06:38:29","slug":"plug-bug-battery-box-design","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/12\/plug-bug-battery-box-design\/","title":{"rendered":"Plug Bug: Battery Box Design"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>\n<p>I did some research on what people have done for battery boxes. The cells need to be contained well so they don&#8217;t go flying around in the event of an accident. A few interesting posts I found:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.diyelectriccar.com\/forums\/showthread.php?p=186991\">http:\/\/www.diyelectriccar.com\/forums\/showthread.php?p=186991<\/a> &#8212; some good pictures.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/adventure-ev.com\/?p=181\">Battery Boxes for the Adventure EV<\/a> &#8211; a 1971 Land Rover, with nice boxes.<\/p>\n<p>I knew I wanted to make my boxes out of steel, similar to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.evalbum.com\/3145\">Travis&#8217; bug<\/a>. I wasn&#8217;t sure how thick of steel to use, so I asked on diyelectriccar.com with this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.diyelectriccar.com\/forums\/showthread.php?p=211745\">post<\/a>. That also was a great way of seeing some other boxes that I hadn&#8217;t seen before. I also learned that 1\/8&#8243; steel was probably thick enough. I was originally thinking 1\/4&#8243; was way too thick, but I was pondering 3\/16&#8243;. Since others used 1\/8&#8243;, and said it worked well, I decided to use it. I also settled on 1&#8243;x1&#8243; angle iron.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I designed battery boxes months ago for the 160ah size cell. However, my 200ah cells turned out to be bigger, so I had to rethink things. With the 160ah cell, I was going to put a bunch behind the rear seat and the rest in the front trunk. Here is the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/sketchup\/Batteries_160ah_Plug_bug.skp\">160ah battery design sketchup file<\/a> and some screen shots.<\/p>\n<p>This is the rear pack of 31 cells &#8212; it was going to sit quite high, but it wouldn&#8217;t obstruct the rear window at all. I was going to secure the cells in the x direction by using the same strapping stuff that I used to secure the cells together. The cells would have been mounted horizontally, which is okay but not ideal. I had emailed Thundersky batteries and they said mounting horizontally is possible, but vertical is better &#8212; mainly because if the batteries vent (due to too much heat\/expansion), they will vent out the top and spill.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/160_rear_pack.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/160_rear_pack-tm.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"383\" alt=\"160_rear_pack.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The front pack, 17 cells:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/160_front_pack.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/160_front_pack-tm.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"383\" alt=\"160_front_pack.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The real 200ah size was quite larger, so I had to rethink things. I finally realized the car was going to be fairly heavy with all these cells (a post on that is coming soon), so I decided to just nix the rear seat. I rarely have a second passenger, and I even more rarely have 3 or 4 passengers in my current car. More often than not, I use the rear area of the Prius to carry unicycles. I decided that I could nix the rear seat and cover it with Lexan and toss the unicycles on top of the batteries. It should work out great!<\/p>\n<p>So, here&#8217;s the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/sketchup\/Batteries_160ah_Plug_bug.skp\">200ah size design<\/a> I&#8217;m working on fabricating. Note that I leave off some details, like side braces that I (might) add later depending on how strong it feels.<\/p>\n<p>The front pack, 15 cells (each cell is 16 pounds, so that&#8217;s 240 pounds in the front trunk area &#8212; much heavier than the gas tank normally would have been):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/200_front_pack.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/200_front_pack-tm.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"600\" alt=\"200_front_pack.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The blue area above is roughly the available floor area that I could use to put the cells.<\/p>\n<p>The rear pack (33 cells), which will sit where the rear seat was, along with a small set of horizontal cells sitting on the rear luggage area. The entire area should be about level, and will all be covered with a few big pieces of thick Lexan plastic.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/200_rear_pack.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/200_rear_pack-tm.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"600\" alt=\"200_rear_pack.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The rear pack has angle iron on the top pieces to create a flat area to mount the lexan onto, and also possibly some strapping mechanism to strap the cells down. I haven&#8217;t decided how I want to secure these cells in the Z axis. The rear cells will be strapped down for sure, but I&#8217;m not sure about the front &#8212; I might make a latching mechanism for them.<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to download the sketchup files and play around with them. I did a lot of revisions in Sketchup before I came to these designs; mainly playing with layouts, locations, and designs.<\/p>\n<p>Note that the cells have a 1\/8&#8243; aluminum plate on the ends &#8212; that is used to secure the cells from expansion.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I did some research on what people have done for battery boxes. The cells need to be contained well so they don&#8217;t go flying around in the event of an accident. A few interesting posts&#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/12\/plug-bug-battery-box-design\/\">[read more]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1916","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-electric-bug"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1916","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1916"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1916\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1916"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1916"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1916"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}