{"id":1457,"date":"2010-05-21T18:44:42","date_gmt":"2010-05-22T01:44:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/plug-bug-battery-research\/"},"modified":"2010-05-21T18:44:42","modified_gmt":"2010-05-22T01:44:42","slug":"plug-bug-battery-research","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/plug-bug-battery-research\/","title":{"rendered":"Plug Bug: Battery Research"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>\n<p>How far can I go? That depends on how fast you want to go, and how many hills you hit. Here&#8217;s some <a href=\"http:\/\/www.diyelectriccar.com\/forums\/showthread.php?t=11709\">great info<\/a> on the diy forums that got me started. I <b>want<\/b> to go 100 miles at 65mph (excluding hills and acceleration, for simplicity). Realistically, that probably won&#8217;t happen because it will cost too much and take up too much space (and too much weight!)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/201005021312.jpg\" width=\"120\" height=\"120\" alt=\"201005021312.jpg\" style=\"float:left; margin-right:10px;\" \/>I&#8217;m going with a 154V DC system and 48 Thundersky Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. The nominal volts per lithium battery is 3.2 V. What Ah do I need per cell? At 65mph on flat ground will consume about 23kW of power (31Hp). 100 miles at 65 mph = 1.54 hours, or 1 hr 32 minutes. 23kw*1.54 = 35.4kw needed. 35,400 watts \/ 154 v = 230Ah. We want to only run the pack to 80% &#8220;Depth of Discharge&#8221; (DoD) to avoid killing the pack too early. So, at 230Ah I need 230Ah* 1.2 = ~275 Ah cells to make it work (roughly). I&#8217;m actually planning on using 200Ah cells (due to size and cost), so I won&#8217;t be able to get that far. Also note that batteries have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.evcomponents.com\/cscart\/\">cycle life<\/a> associated with them&#8211; you get more cycles and more life depending on how far you discharge the pack, and how fast you discharge a pack (the C rating). From my research, it appears that 1\/2 C is the best rating for the maximum cycle life, but are usually rated continuous at 2C. I&#8217;ll be pulling less than that, so I should be okay.<\/p>\n<p>With the 48 3.2V 200Ah cells I will have 154V, and 154V*200Ah*80% = ~25kW of available energy in my pack. That means I should be able to do about 71 miles based on 35kW to maintain 65mph (ignoring acceleration and any other factors). A little less than I wanted, and I&#8217;m really hoping it is enough to do 50 miles (round trip), including my &#8220;hill&#8221; so I can commute to work \/ gym \/ home and charge at work only. Otherwise, I&#8217;ll be dependent on charging at work and home, which won&#8217;t be a big deal.<\/p>\n<p>Real life &#8220;Watts per mile&#8221; is another good estimate of range. Travis (who has a nice conversion I mentioned before) said he gets about 250Watts\/mile when driving conservatively. Based on that, and 80% DoD, I could get up to a 98 mile range. That likely won&#8217;t happen, but would be cool. A 300W\/mile estimate would give me an 82 mile range. My calculations are probably conservative, as I used higher values to not get my hopes too high. I&#8217;m excited to actually get my project together and find out what real data I actually get.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve basically gone from zero EV knowledge a month ago to knowing &#8220;a little bit&#8221;. I&#8217;m still learning as I go&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How far can I go? That depends on how fast you want to go, and how many hills you hit. Here&#8217;s some great info on the diy forums that got me started. I want to&#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/plug-bug-battery-research\/\">[read more]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1456,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1457","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-electric-bug"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/201005021312.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1457","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1457"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1457\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1456"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1457"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1457"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1457"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}