{"id":1443,"date":"2010-05-10T17:14:40","date_gmt":"2010-05-11T00:14:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/plug-bug-more-motor-comparisions\/"},"modified":"2010-05-10T20:14:13","modified_gmt":"2010-05-11T03:14:13","slug":"plug-bug-more-motor-comparisions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/plug-bug-more-motor-comparisions\/","title":{"rendered":"Plug Bug: More motor comparisions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/>\n<p>I\u2019m trying to figure out the best motor for my project. I\u2019m now down to considering the EVE AC30 (or AC40) versus the DC WarP 9.<\/p>\n<p>The WarP 9 data is all given at 72v rated on the dyno by Netgain; I simply doubled the RPM and assume the torque output is the same up until about 4000 RPM; I\u2019m not sure if that assumption is correct.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a graph of Torque vs RPM for the various motors:<\/p>\n<p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Screen-shot-2010-05-10-at-4.47.51-PM.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Screen-shot-2010-05-10-at-4.47.51-PM-tm.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"347\" alt=\"Screen shot 2010-05-10 at 4.47.51 PM.png\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I know the HPGC AC50 will be underpowered for what I want, but this chart makes it look like the WarP9 is also underpowered. However, this at ~260 amps \u2014 more amps will give more power, but it is a question of how long can the motor take that.<\/p>\n<p><b>UPDATE:<\/b> From <b><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.belktronix.com\/WarPOwnersManual.pdf\">http:\/\/www.belktronix.com\/WarPOwnersManual.pdf<\/a> I found out the Netgain WarP 9 is: <i>\u201cThey are actually rated at 450 Amps for 5 minutes, 225 Amps for 1 hour, and 190 Amps continuous duty\u201d.<\/i><\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>I could probably (quite safely) push 300 amps for 10 minutes up my 5% grade hill.<\/p>\n<p>Based on looking at other AC conversions, I think the AC30 will be too weak; I really would need to go with the EVE AC40. I\u2019m sort of paranoid to use a motor that no one else in the US has used in a conversion.<\/p>\n<p><b>References\/Sources:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>* <a href=\"http:\/\/www.go-ev.com\/motors-warp.html\">WarP 9<\/a> motor page on Netgain. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.go-ev.com\/images\/003_16_WarP_9_SpreadSheet.jpg\">WarP 9 Performance Data<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.go-ev.com\/images\/003_15_WarP_9_Graph.jpg\">WarP 9 Performance Graph<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>* <a href=\"http:\/\/www.electro-vehicles.eu\/eve_home.html\">EVE<\/a> data for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.electro-vehicles.eu\/shop\/details.asp?prodid=EVE02&amp;cat=0&amp;path=47,60\">M2-AC30-L<\/a> (30kw continuous). I think their chart is for the *max* torque.<\/p>\n<p>* EVE emailed me data for the <a href=\"http:\/\/corbinstreehouse.com\/misc\/M3-ac40_L.pdf\">M3-AC40-L<\/a> (40kw continuous). This chart shows both nominal and max torque.<\/p>\n<p>* HPGC\u2019s AC50 (TODO: link to HPEV\u2019s website \/ graph). This is definitely max torque.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m trying to figure out the best motor for my project. I\u2019m now down to considering the EVE AC30 (or AC40) versus the DC WarP 9. The WarP 9 data is all given at 72v&#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/plug-bug-more-motor-comparisions\/\">[read more]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1441,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1443","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-electric-bug"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Screen-shot-2010-05-10-at-4.47.51-PM.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1443","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1443"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1443\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1444,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1443\/revisions\/1444"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1441"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1443"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1443"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.corbinstreehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1443"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}