Comments on: People! Use your keyboard (shortcuts) for menus. http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/2006/07/people-use-your-keyboard-shortcuts-for-menus/ Corbin Dunn Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:37:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Jago Illustration - Link Blog » links for 2006-08-17 http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/2006/07/people-use-your-keyboard-shortcuts-for-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 Jago Illustration - Link Blog » links for 2006-08-17 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:17:45 +0000 http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/?p=157#comment-1046 [...] s for new Mac users, switching from Windows… (tags: mac osx tips howto windows switch) Corbin’s Treehouse Blog » Use your keyboard (shortcuts) for menus. (tags: apple mac osx tips howto [...] [...] s for new Mac users, switching from Windows… (tags: mac osx tips howto windows switch) Corbin’s Treehouse Blog » Use your keyboard (shortcuts) for menus. (tags: apple mac osx tips howto [...]

]]> By: corbin http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/2006/07/people-use-your-keyboard-shortcuts-for-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-264 corbin Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:57:31 +0000 http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/?p=157#comment-264 Jean --  1. Because it selects based on alphabetizing, not order. I think this is a major bug, and needs to be fixed.* 2. It does work -- you just have to hit enter after the menu item is selected. 3. It does work all the time. I had this same misunderstanding when I started to use it. You MUST type in the full word that you want to match, and you must do it fairly quickly. This is unlike windows which has a designated shortcut key, and unlike hitting the first letter to "go to the next item". I consider this a bug too. On windows, it doesn't "just work".  The programmer MUST define shortcut keys, and if they don't define one, then you can't type-select to it. On Mac OS, you don't have to define shortcut keys for them, and they always can be type-selected to. In the end, this is more powerful, and easier to use, and allows you to not have some strange combo (like Alt-W) for closing a window. Instead, you type "close" when the menu is down. Let me know the precise things you are trying to type-select and in which app, and I'll invstigate why it doesn't work (or, what you are accidentally doing wrong). * The general problem with alphabetized list searching for type selection is that it doesn't work when you visually see a list that is not alphabetized. You want to visually go to the first item in the list that matches what you typed (since that's what your mind sees). It does not see an alphabetized list. Jean – 
1. Because it selects based on alphabetizing, not order. I think this is a major bug, and needs to be fixed.*
2. It does work — you just have to hit enter after the menu item is selected.
3. It does work all the time. I had this same misunderstanding when I started to use it. You MUST type in the full word that you want to match, and you must do it fairly quickly. This is unlike windows which has a designated shortcut key, and unlike hitting the first letter to “go to the next item”. I consider this a bug too.

On windows, it doesn’t “just work”.  The programmer MUST define shortcut keys, and if they don’t define one, then you can’t type-select to it. On Mac OS, you don’t have to define shortcut keys for them, and they always can be type-selected to. In the end, this is more powerful, and easier to use, and allows you to not have some strange combo (like Alt-W) for closing a window. Instead, you type “close” when the menu is down.

Let me know the precise things you are trying to type-select and in which app, and I’ll invstigate why it doesn’t work (or, what you are accidentally doing wrong).
* The general problem with alphabetized list searching for type selection is that it doesn’t work when you visually see a list that is not alphabetized. You want to visually go to the first item in the list that matches what you typed (since that’s what your mind sees). It does not see an alphabetized list.

]]> By: Jean V. Jean http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/2006/07/people-use-your-keyboard-shortcuts-for-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-245 Jean V. Jean Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:20:00 +0000 http://www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog/?p=157#comment-245 Ok, but: 1. Why is Open Recent selected and not Open? This is clearly completely confusing. 2. Why doesn't the C shortcut work if you try to use the Close menu? 3. Why doen't it work all the time? If you select another letter after typing O, most of the time, you don't go on the proper item. At least on Windows, it just works. On OS X, it may work one day (I'm sure Nostradamus predicted which day). Ok, but:

1. Why is Open Recent selected and not Open? This is clearly completely confusing.

2. Why doesn’t the C shortcut work if you try to use the Close menu?

3. Why doen’t it work all the time? If you select another letter after typing O, most of the time, you don’t go on the proper item.

At least on Windows, it just works. On OS X, it may work one day (I’m sure Nostradamus predicted which day).

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